Frommark lewis1:3634/12.73Date Write2018-06-28 12:34:22
ToGregory Deyss0:0/0.0Date Arrived2018-06-28 22:00:20
SubjTrump, etc.

On 2018 Jun 27 07:50:28, you wrote to Dale Shipp:

DS>> In double checking, there are some rather legalistic definitions
DS>> defining who is and is not a US Person. These refugees may not fall
DS>> under those definitions, but they are still entitled to the full
DS>> protection of US law. And so is every one else who is on American
DS>> soil. Even Ward had that right when he goes to his BSA camps.

GD> They are not American citizens, therefore not afforded anything from
GD> the US including protection.

your grade in American History is an F... you really really really need to read
and understand the Bill of Rights... note the specific uses of "person",
"persons" and "people"... also note the distinct lack of use of "citizen"...
the Bill of Right expressly covers ALL PEOPLE ON US SOIL... legal immigrants,
illegal immigrants, asylum seekers, tourists, migrant workers, native peoples,
naturalized citizens, natural-born citizens, etc...

The Bill of Rights

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or
of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition
the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II
A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the
right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the
consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and
no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime,
unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising
in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time
of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense
to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any
criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life,
liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be
taken for public use without just compensation.

Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and
public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime
shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously
ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the
accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory
process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of
counsel for his defense.

Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty
dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a
jury shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than
according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel
and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed
to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to
the people.

GD> You break the law you will be prosecuted.

i'll bet you're very glad that lieing isn't against the law... or is it?


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